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loan guarantee. e-mail specifically for the vice president joe biden's involvement in the 1.6 billion grant. it's for the proposed solar project in the desert in southern california. an e-mail from brightsource energy subcontractor, dated december 2, 2000, said joe biden met weekly with energy secretary steven chu to discuss the energy department loan guaranty. burner tuning, who was joe biden's chief of staff when he was a senator in the senate was a principal vice president and manager of back till. in an inner -- e-mail to john ward at december 3, 2009, he wrote quote calls are in to biden's staff and though the approaching a political affairs office at the white house tomorrow as well. of the project could benefit two democratic senators and whose races will be tough next year. barbara boxer of california, and majority leader senator reid from nevada. both won reelection in 2010. over a year later, in marc march 2011, brightsource still have no loan. brightsource ceo said in an e-mail to jonathan silver, who was an executive director of the energy department's loan guarantee progr
president joe biden, and vice president biden -- >> host: when did that happen? >> guest: it happened in 2009. very early -- well, maybe even, well yeah, 2009 in the first part. so, he had the lead for the iraq policy. and a lot of this is reflected in my book. but there was a debate about how much to get involved behind maliki, and the investor at the time, ambassador chris hill pretty much thought that maliki was the man we had to work with and that his rival didn't really have a good chance of making it to the prime minister post not withstanding the fact that his party won more seats than maliki's party but there was a debate in the government where vice president joe biden came down and was in favor of working with maliki as there would be a necessary evil or just the man that was going to be there. so, when things really get hot or when there is a crisis, vice president wyden calls and he called the iranian flights to syria. he called about the release. but it just seems that his call seems to have less and less influence this time it's gone wrong. >> host: let's go to lincoln f
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